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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2008/11/26/perspectives-on-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a reference that helps to document Kansas Old Growth Cross Timbers---like the site at Toronto State Park.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uark.edu/misc/xtimber/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Ancient Cross Timbers Consortium&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a reference that helps to document Kansas Old Growth Cross Timbers&#8212;like the site at Toronto State Park.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uark.edu/misc/xtimber/" rel="nofollow">The Ancient Cross Timbers Consortium</a></p>
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		<title>By: jwitters</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2008/11/26/perspectives-on-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>jwitters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Eric!  McCarthy did a nice article going over the basics of how to do a dendrochronology-climate lab in American Biology Teacher back in &#039;02 or &#039;03, for anyone interested who has back issues or membership to browse on NABT&#039;s site. 

Also, tree ring junkies may really dig U Tenn prof Henri Grissino-Mayer&#039;s terrific website whose name says it all:  &quot;The Ultimate Tree-Ring Web Pages.&quot;  Its target audience is professional dendros, but he&#039;s got tons of terrific info on anything related to tree rings.  His photo gallery has some amazing shots, from multiple fire scars on a ponderosa section to photomicrographs of bristlecone pine rings.  

For anyone who read this far into the comment -- you might be a fellow ring nut!  If you can get to Olathe South, then I have a stack of wood specimens you can borrow from, short- or long-term, depending on how much I use it in teaching.  In the stacks are core samples from western softwoods and eastern hardwoods, as well as &quot;cookies&quot; (cross-sections) of a variety of species.  Quite a number are samples from western trees that go back 200-400 years. 

Jeff Witters
Olathe South High School</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Eric!  McCarthy did a nice article going over the basics of how to do a dendrochronology-climate lab in American Biology Teacher back in &#8217;02 or &#8217;03, for anyone interested who has back issues or membership to browse on NABT&#8217;s site. </p>
<p>Also, tree ring junkies may really dig U Tenn prof Henri Grissino-Mayer&#8217;s terrific website whose name says it all:  &#8220;The Ultimate Tree-Ring Web Pages.&#8221;  Its target audience is professional dendros, but he&#8217;s got tons of terrific info on anything related to tree rings.  His photo gallery has some amazing shots, from multiple fire scars on a ponderosa section to photomicrographs of bristlecone pine rings.  </p>
<p>For anyone who read this far into the comment &#8212; you might be a fellow ring nut!  If you can get to Olathe South, then I have a stack of wood specimens you can borrow from, short- or long-term, depending on how much I use it in teaching.  In the stacks are core samples from western softwoods and eastern hardwoods, as well as &#8220;cookies&#8221; (cross-sections) of a variety of species.  Quite a number are samples from western trees that go back 200-400 years. </p>
<p>Jeff Witters<br />
Olathe South High School</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.

When I wrote &quot;such birds&quot; I obviously wasn&#039;t thinking clearly.  

Knowing that I am not the greatest of birders, I asked my middle daughter (without promting) what I have  been calling these birds, as we drove back by them the other day.  She said &quot;crows&quot;.   So it goes.

I will be more careful in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.</p>
<p>When I wrote &#8220;such birds&#8221; I obviously wasn&#8217;t thinking clearly.  </p>
<p>Knowing that I am not the greatest of birders, I asked my middle daughter (without promting) what I have  been calling these birds, as we drove back by them the other day.  She said &#8220;crows&#8221;.   So it goes.</p>
<p>I will be more careful in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

You&#039;ve got a scoop if you&#039;ve been seeing ravens on the plaza--certainly there are corvids down there but if you&#039;ve been seeing ravens you&#039;ll have every bird watcher in KC down there trying to see them....

I&#039;m really partial to Ravens--always have been but Heinrich&#039;s work just solidified it.

BW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a scoop if you&#8217;ve been seeing ravens on the plaza&#8211;certainly there are corvids down there but if you&#8217;ve been seeing ravens you&#8217;ll have every bird watcher in KC down there trying to see them&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really partial to Ravens&#8211;always have been but Heinrich&#8217;s work just solidified it.</p>
<p>BW</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to be &quot;inspired&quot; Brad.  

I will try to get inspired more frequently.  

Otherwise, thanks for the book suggestion.  I have read a few of his other books, but not the one you suggested.

In fact, the most recent book I have partially read of his is the &quot;Mind of the Raven&quot;, and while picking up my daughter from school near the plaza the past week or two there has been quite a congregation of such birds along brush creek.  I have been hoping that some idea would come to mind providing a means for my students to study this unique and intelligent resource.  I haven&#039;t thought of anything yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to be &#8220;inspired&#8221; Brad.  </p>
<p>I will try to get inspired more frequently.  </p>
<p>Otherwise, thanks for the book suggestion.  I have read a few of his other books, but not the one you suggested.</p>
<p>In fact, the most recent book I have partially read of his is the &#8220;Mind of the Raven&#8221;, and while picking up my daughter from school near the plaza the past week or two there has been quite a congregation of such birds along brush creek.  I have been hoping that some idea would come to mind providing a means for my students to study this unique and intelligent resource.  I haven&#8217;t thought of anything yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Eric.  Not sure why you wouldn&#039;t normally post about such activities--I think you should.

Another resource that can serve as a model for how to ask some interesting &quot;tree&quot; research questions is Bernd Heinrich&#039;s book:  &lt;a href= &quot;http://www.amazon.com/Trees-My-Forest-Bernd-Heinrich/dp/0060929421&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Trees in My Forest&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Eric.  Not sure why you wouldn&#8217;t normally post about such activities&#8211;I think you should.</p>
<p>Another resource that can serve as a model for how to ask some interesting &#8220;tree&#8221; research questions is Bernd Heinrich&#8217;s book:  <a href= "http://www.amazon.com/Trees-My-Forest-Bernd-Heinrich/dp/0060929421" rel="nofollow"> Trees in My Forest</a></p>
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