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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are not my tracks.  

I con my students to follow me around doing lots of things but I don&#039;t think many would have been up for such an activity before school officially starts back up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are not my tracks.  </p>
<p>I con my students to follow me around doing lots of things but I don&#8217;t think many would have been up for such an activity before school officially starts back up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was too cold, yesterday for shrews on the surface--I imagine they prefer the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ed.mtu.edu/esmis/winter/subnivian.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;subnivian habitat&lt;/a&gt; on such days.  Still, I stopped by the arboretum to check out the tracks and the bird feeding stations.  No shrew tracks (or reasonable facsimiles) but there were a number of off-trail human tracks in the area.  Did you our your students get out there Eric?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was too cold, yesterday for shrews on the surface&#8211;I imagine they prefer the <a href="http://www.ed.mtu.edu/esmis/winter/subnivian.html" rel="nofollow">subnivian habitat</a> on such days.  Still, I stopped by the arboretum to check out the tracks and the bird feeding stations.  No shrew tracks (or reasonable facsimiles) but there were a number of off-trail human tracks in the area.  Did you our your students get out there Eric?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2009/12/28/track-identification-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did look for a tail drag---it&#039;s one of the first things I look for.  It wasn&#039;t there.  It is sometimes apparent on mice and such when they are on top of the snow.  In this case though, the critter was plowing through the snow.  A short-tail shrew&#039;s tail is both short and thin relative to almost every other critter that size.  Only voles and bog lemmings have smaller tails.  I have seen Blarina leave marks but only under perfect conditions--it&#039;s more of a scuff and not a drag.  (Could have had those conditions when we got the additional snow but I wasn&#039;t out there then.)  &lt;em&gt;Blarina carolinensis&lt;/em&gt; occurs throughout the state and is relatively common.  A couple of years ago I found 5 on my running route in just one week (all dead).  Cats have a tendency to kill these and not eat them.  Here&#039;s the coordinates for the photos:
38.801039, -94.690081</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did look for a tail drag&#8212;it&#8217;s one of the first things I look for.  It wasn&#8217;t there.  It is sometimes apparent on mice and such when they are on top of the snow.  In this case though, the critter was plowing through the snow.  A short-tail shrew&#8217;s tail is both short and thin relative to almost every other critter that size.  Only voles and bog lemmings have smaller tails.  I have seen Blarina leave marks but only under perfect conditions&#8211;it&#8217;s more of a scuff and not a drag.  (Could have had those conditions when we got the additional snow but I wasn&#8217;t out there then.)  <em>Blarina carolinensis</em> occurs throughout the state and is relatively common.  A couple of years ago I found 5 on my running route in just one week (all dead).  Cats have a tendency to kill these and not eat them.  Here&#8217;s the coordinates for the photos:<br />
38.801039, -94.690081</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2009/12/28/track-identification-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In taking the time to look for the caption to the image link I posted, I discovered that all those tracks were not from &quot;Blarina&quot; although that is what I had google image searched (blarina tracks).  

As the caption says, they are, from left to right, from Blarina in the snow, Deermouse, Meadow Mouse, and Masked Shrew.

It was a question though not a statement and asked based on the evidence I had at hand.  As you will still see along the beginning of the Blarina track sketch that I posted, there is still a line between the first four foot prints (assumed to be produced by a tail and not dragging of the feet in some manner - and assuming that the sketch was done by a credible observer).

Are you sure your observations (memory) aren&#039;t being clouded by your expectations based on the common name of the animal?  

I think short in this case is a relative term.  The images I find using google suggest that this animal could potentially produce a tail line.  Wiki says the tails range from 0.7 to 1.3 inches in length. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Short-tailed_Shrew

Thus, how could a 1.3 inch tail not make a mark in the snow?

Give me the GPS coordinates and I&#039;ll give my students an assignment to find evidence that short-tailed shrews can produce a tail line as well.  : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In taking the time to look for the caption to the image link I posted, I discovered that all those tracks were not from &#8220;Blarina&#8221; although that is what I had google image searched (blarina tracks).  </p>
<p>As the caption says, they are, from left to right, from Blarina in the snow, Deermouse, Meadow Mouse, and Masked Shrew.</p>
<p>It was a question though not a statement and asked based on the evidence I had at hand.  As you will still see along the beginning of the Blarina track sketch that I posted, there is still a line between the first four foot prints (assumed to be produced by a tail and not dragging of the feet in some manner &#8211; and assuming that the sketch was done by a credible observer).</p>
<p>Are you sure your observations (memory) aren&#8217;t being clouded by your expectations based on the common name of the animal?  </p>
<p>I think short in this case is a relative term.  The images I find using google suggest that this animal could potentially produce a tail line.  Wiki says the tails range from 0.7 to 1.3 inches in length. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Short-tailed_Shrew" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Short-tailed_Shrew</a></p>
<p>Thus, how could a 1.3 inch tail not make a mark in the snow?</p>
<p>Give me the GPS coordinates and I&#8217;ll give my students an assignment to find evidence that short-tailed shrews can produce a tail line as well.  : )</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You aren&#039;t going to see a tail line on a Blarina---they are called short-tailed shrews for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t going to see a tail line on a Blarina&#8212;they are called short-tailed shrews for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best evidence would be a image of a shrew in the act of making the tracks...

Could you see the tail drag line? Here is a link I found from the Boy Scout Handbook with some shrew track images, and they all suggest that a tail drag line should be evident.  http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29558/29558-h/images/p0198pic1.jpg 

The link you posted was nice too (I finally got a flicker account).  Makes me what to get out there and see what I can find.  Well, maybe once the temperature rises a little bit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best evidence would be a image of a shrew in the act of making the tracks&#8230;</p>
<p>Could you see the tail drag line? Here is a link I found from the Boy Scout Handbook with some shrew track images, and they all suggest that a tail drag line should be evident.  <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29558/29558-h/images/p0198pic1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29558/29558-h/images/p0198pic1.jpg</a> </p>
<p>The link you posted was nice too (I finally got a flicker account).  Makes me what to get out there and see what I can find.  Well, maybe once the temperature rises a little bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2009/12/28/track-identification-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1452</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good hypothesis, Eric......any ideas of other evidence that would help you be more certain?

I have to agree, based on these images.  In fact, based on the size and all, I would say this is a Blarina sp.  

btw, Shrews are plantigrade (flat-footed).

Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/ontario_wanderer/2298610936/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to some purported shrew tracks form Ontario.  He suggests they are shrew tracks--again a good hypothesis.  If you look through Ontario Wanderer&#039;s photostream you&#039;ll note that he is learning his tracks too. (Just search on tracks.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good hypothesis, Eric&#8230;&#8230;any ideas of other evidence that would help you be more certain?</p>
<p>I have to agree, based on these images.  In fact, based on the size and all, I would say this is a Blarina sp.  </p>
<p>btw, Shrews are plantigrade (flat-footed).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ontario_wanderer/2298610936/" rel="nofollow">link</a> to some purported shrew tracks form Ontario.  He suggests they are shrew tracks&#8211;again a good hypothesis.  If you look through Ontario Wanderer&#8217;s photostream you&#8217;ll note that he is learning his tracks too. (Just search on tracks.)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kessler</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2009/12/28/track-identification-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After your hints on size and consulting Murie&#039;s Peterson&#039;s Field Guide to Animal Tracks, I imagine that it is a SHREW of some sort.   Here are some comments from the field guide that match your photos/hints...

&quot;You will seldom find shrew tracks except in snow&quot;...  &quot;The shrew trail will measure about 1 inch in width&quot;... &quot;In soft snow the shrew has a habit shared by several other mammals.  It will dive in and travel under the snow.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After your hints on size and consulting Murie&#8217;s Peterson&#8217;s Field Guide to Animal Tracks, I imagine that it is a SHREW of some sort.   Here are some comments from the field guide that match your photos/hints&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;You will seldom find shrew tracks except in snow&#8221;&#8230;  &#8220;The shrew trail will measure about 1 inch in width&#8221;&#8230; &#8220;In soft snow the shrew has a habit shared by several other mammals.  It will dive in and travel under the snow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.kabt.org/2009/12/28/track-identification-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1450</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No attempts at the challenge?   Hmmm..... perhaps another hint.....

&lt;del datetime=&quot;2010-01-02T15:44:47+00:00&quot;&gt;There were other tracks that I did not photograph---in a tell-tale 2 x 2 pattern--that mostly eliminates the mouse possibilities&lt;/del&gt;.  This is one neat critter &lt;del datetime=&quot;2010-01-02T15:44:47+00:00&quot;&gt;for NE KS&lt;/del&gt;.  BTW, I went back out to the Arboretum, yesterday and the network of track sign now covers about 1.5 acres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No attempts at the challenge?   Hmmm&#8230;.. perhaps another hint&#8230;..</p>
<p><del datetime="2010-01-02T15:44:47+00:00">There were other tracks that I did not photograph&#8212;in a tell-tale 2 x 2 pattern&#8211;that mostly eliminates the mouse possibilities</del>.  This is one neat critter <del datetime="2010-01-02T15:44:47+00:00">for NE KS</del>.  BTW, I went back out to the Arboretum, yesterday and the network of track sign now covers about 1.5 acres.</p>
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